Not My Tribe | By Eric Verlo | 20 July 2009
Afghan Taliban set high POW standard
There it is. The Afghans have captured a POW, we’ve been been sent his image in RGB with a personal message to the American public. US military spokesmen are calling the video a violation of the laws of war. Secretary of State Clinton is calling it “just outrageous and a real sign of desperation and inappropriate criminal behavior.” She’s probably right about the desperation. But showing no signs of nudity, degradation, brutalization or rigor mortis, Army Private Bergdahl is faring better than any US detainee.
And think of the example we’ve set for the Taliban. Bagram AFB, and other unlisted US detention centers in Afghanistan, are purportedly even worse than Club Guantanamo. What happened in 2001 to Taliban forces who surrendered to the Northern Alliance is still trying to come to light, despite a desperate US cover-up. You’ve heard it by now, although the graves have been moved, the shell casings disappeared, and the witnesses killed. Over two thousand Afghan POWs were suffocated in shipping containers, those who survived were finished off by US special forces as they hastily emptied the containers at Dasht-e Leili.
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Time: July 23, 2009, 10:52 amPrivate Bergdahl and the Silence of the Pro-Torture Crowd
by Jacob G. HornbergerThe pro-torture crowd sure seems quiet about the plight of 23-year-old private Bowe R. Bergdahl, the American soldier being held captive by the Taliban in Afghanistan.
Why the silence?
For eight years the pro-torture crowd has been defending the propriety of subjecting prisoners and detainees to such things as waterboarding, repeated waterboarding, walling, beatings, forced nudity, involuntary sexual acts, and even actions that “inadvertently” resulted in death.
And for 8 years, the anti-torture crowd, including those of us here at The Future of Freedom Foundation, have been arguing against all of this, primarily on moral grounds.
But ever since allegations about the torture began surfacing 8 years ago, we’ve also been making another argument, a practical one involving U.S. soldiers. We have continually argued that the use of such “interrogation techniques” would inevitably subject U.S. soldiers taken captive to the same mistreatment.
Of course, even if the U.S. were treating its prisoners and detainees properly, it’s always possible that the other side would nonetheless mistreat U.S. personnel taken captive. But one thing is for sure: Once the U.S. government took the torture road, it lost all moral standing to insist on the proper treatment of American soldiers taken captive. And it virtually guaranteed that U.S. personnel would be subjected to the same or similar methods of mistreatment, or worse.
Suppose the Taliban releases videos showing Bergdahl naked, with Taliban soldiers, both male and female, standing around him and leering at him and laughing at him. Then, suppose that after that the video shows him being repeatedly waterboarded, maybe once or twice a day. Then, suppose it shows him in stress positions for long periods of time and being intentionally denied sleep over several weeks. Suppose he’s thrown up against walls and beaten. Suppose he’s “inadvertently” killed during his interrogation.
What possibly could the pro-torture crowd say? That none of this constitutes a proper interrogation technique? That it’s unfair? Wouldn’t the whole world laugh at such claims? After all, if these things constitute proper interrogation techniques for prisoners and detainees in U.S. custody, why don’t they constitute proper interrogation techniques for American soldiers and CIA personnel taken captive?
The Taliban has released a video in which Bergdahl requests the American people to bring about the withdrawal of all troops from Afghanistan. Given that the pro-torture crowd has long argued that confessions that U.S. “interrogation techniques” have produced are voluntary and valid, I wonder if the pro-torture crowd would say the same about Bergdahl’s statement.
During the entire time that the anti-torture crowd was making this pragmatic argument against torture, the pro-torture crowd was pasting those “support the troops” stickers on their vehicles. I can’t help but wonder if Private Bergdahl might be saying to himself right now, “With friends like those in the pro-torture crowd, who needs enemies?”
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Dear Arshad Zaman,
I have been thinking about ways to expand both the scope and readership of your blog. You are most probably unaware of this, but there has been something of a Muslim hip-hop revolution happening in recent years. What this means is that many young, politically-aware Muslims are using the medium of hip-hop to rap about US foreign policy, the treatment of detainees, and Guantanamo, to name a few topics. Hip-hop (or what you might know as rap) is a deeply misunderstood genre of music, and has strayed tragically far from its activist roots and political messages.
An example of one young Muslim rapping about Guantanam and airport security for Muslims is the unfortunately-named Narcicyst, who has sung a song called P.H.A.T.W.A., which you can listen to here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtoHCUMpNMY&feature=channel_page
(“Phat,” since you might be unaware of urban lingo, is another way of saying “cool,” even though the real cool kids don’t usually use this expression anymore since it has been co-opted by the priveleged white masses.) Anyhow, my point is that perhaps you should incorporate videos like the one I’ve linked above on your blog. It is obscenity-free, politically motivated, and also quite catchy, if you’re into that sort of thing. You might also want to look into poets like Suhair Hammad etc., about whom the San Franciso historian knows plenty, and would be happy to enlighten you.
Anyhow, that is my two cents’ worth. Enjoy the video, Arshad Zaman!
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